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The things we have learned – Newgren hydraluics

Quentin from Ottawa, Ontario, sent us a note and pictures of the Newgren lift that he has rescued.  After wandering through the Farm Jeep site, he had questions about bringing the lift back to life  Quentin’s lift is missing key components, leaving him with the basic frame.  While trying to respond to his questions, we thought it might be worthwhile to write a piece on what we have learned since we started our restoration over a decade ago.
Some perspective

The story of the Newgren lift begins and ends in just a couple of years.  The Newgren Company began selling a version of the Love Lift in 1946 and stopped production of the its own designed lift sometime after 1948 when it was purchased by Monroe Automotive Equipment Company.  The Newgren’s simple design has allowed owners to keep the lift working even when key components had to be replaced.  Our focus has been to keep our lift as original as possible.  We were extremely lucky that our lift came with everything except the pump.  Later, we were able to find an original pump and bracket.  But between the time we found the the lift and installed the original style pump, we experimented with a number of alternative pump configurations.
This is not a how-to post, rather a more of a don’t-do-what-we-did warning.  We also don’t have complete information on how to replace all the components.  But hopefully, we can point Quentin and others in the right direction.

The basics
The Newgren system uses a single-action cylinder.  That means hydraulic fluid under high pressure is used to extend the cylinder and raise the implement and the weight of the implement retracts the cylinder to lower it.  A control valve is used to direct the fluid for the required action.  To raise the implement, the valve must direct the fluid to the upper (or top) chamber of the cylinder.  To maintain the position of the implement, the value must shut off flow to the cylinder and dump the fluid being pumped under pressure into the reservoir.  To lower the implement, the valve must open the upper chamber and allow the fluid to empty into the reservoir.
  

When we started, we didn’t have this basic understanding and it caused us to make a number of mistakes.  For example, a single action cylinder requires a “port” to allow air to move in and of the lower chamber.  In most applications, having the air port open to the environment isn’t a problem.  But with the Newgren setup, the port is right down in the dirt and dust.  The designers wisely used the extra space in the reservoir, as an “air tank” by attaching a hose from the lower cylinder port to the top of the reservoir.  We overfilled the reservoir, not understanding the need for the air space, and it resulted in a pressurized system. Adding to our problem was the lack of a relief valve as shown in the diagram.  The end result was blown seals in the pump and damage to the cylinder seals.

Simple, but not easy

The first piece of the puzzle is to find a single action cylinder that will fit in the frame and has the appropriate bore and stroke.  The bore (the diameter of the cylinder in which the piston travels) will determine the speed and power of the lift.  The stroke is the distance from a fully closed to a fully extended cylinder. Newgren used at least two different styles of cylinders.  Our cylinder body was rusted and had to be replaced.  In the process of rebuilding the cylinder the stroke was shortened, mostly like when the rod was replaced.  The end result is that we don’t have the full range of lift.

The Newgren lift uses a large metal “push” block to move the implement up and down.  The critical measurement for the cylinder is the stroke length.  The cylinder must be able to push the block and attached short arms through the complete lift arc.

We believe our cylinder to be a 3″ bore with a 6″ stroke.  At this point, we would have hoped to have had a recommendation for a modern day replacement.  We don’t.  We are sure that one exists and we will try get recommendations from others.  When we have information we will update this post.  But for starters, you will need a cylinder with a base mount that will fit the Newgren frame and no rod mount.  The rod rides in the lift block and will require a stop or collar to engage the block.

Going in the right direction

The Love lift and the Newgren lift had a control handle next to the drivers seat.  This was possible because the hydraulic control valve is located on the front of the reservoir.  It uses a spring-loaded push/pull rod to raise and lower the implement.  Releasing the handle returns the valve to the neutral position.  Our control valve doesn’t seal properly and allows the cylinder to leak down.  The Newgren valve doesn’t have O-rings or other seals that can be replaced.

We attempted to find a modern control valve to replace the original but haven’t been able to do so.  An alternative might be to mount a control valve between the seats.  You would loose the ability to control the lift from the rear of the jeep, a unique and handy feature, but could maintain the between the seats control.  Another alternative would be to adapt the Monroe solution of having the reservoir and the control valve mounted between the seats.  In a case, like Quentin’s, were you don’t have a reserve tank in place, this might be a good alternative.

We are looking for someone to duplicate the Newgren control valve with provisions for O-rings,  Again, if we find a source or have a duplicate made we will update this post.

Reservoirations

The original Newgren reservoir fits neatly inside the frame.  It has a fitting on top for the air “bleeder” hose described above and the mount for the control valve.  Most importantly it is sized to hold the proper amount of fluid and an air pocket for the cylinder.  There is no easy way to fill the reservoir (you use the small pipe at the rear of the jeep) and no way to measure the fluid level.

The Newgren reservoir measures roughly 8.5″W x 10.5″L x 4.5″H and is held in the frame by a metal strap.  Instructions say to fill the reservoir with 5 quarts of oil.  While we are not aware of any ready-made tanks of this size, one could be fabricated.  However, the reservoir does not need to be locate in the frame.  Other solutions are available.

All kinds of pumps

We have tried a number of different style pumps – crank driven, belt driven and electric.  The Newgren lift pump (and the Monroe lift too) used a pump mounted on the front of the crank pulley.  The pump was/is the same pump used on International Harvester series “A” and series “C” tractors.  It has a flow rate of around 4 GPM.  These pumps are still available from IH/Case parts suppliers, but are very expensive.  This is the pump we currently have installed.

Pictures of Newgren lifts have shown that belt-driven pumps were also used.  Our guess is that these where replacements for the failed crank pulley pump.  It should be noted that the Love lift did use a belt driven pump and these may have also been used on the very early Newgren version.  The most common belt-driven pump is the Monarch HY-LO series.  Good information here – http://www.ewillys.com/2012/10/29/monarch-hy-lo-hydraulic-brochure/

The HY-LO-Jeep pump was commonly used for snow plows and they are still available.  This is combination pump/reservoir/control valve.  The control valve is operated via a rod that fits through the firewall and a mounting bracket under the dash.  For applications like Quentin’s, this would be a simple solution.  You would not have between-the-seats control or at the back of the lift, but otherwise a very good alternative to the crank pump .

There is a version of the HY-LO-Jack that is a pump only (no reservoir or valve).  We own one of these but failed to get it to work properly, most likely because it was worn out.  And once these gear  type pumps are worn out, they cannot be rebuilt.  You need to be very cautious of buying used gear type pumps that have lots of hours on them.

Electrified 

A clear advantage of using an electric pump is that it only runs when needed.  Our CJ2a had been converted to 12 volts when we found it.  Since we were having problems with the HY-LO pumps, we decided to purchased a 12 volt pump off ebay.  The first had its own reservoir and this setup did not work well.  Unencumbered by the thought process, we simple hooked the two reservoirs together.  Rather than try to explain or analyze why this was a bad idea, we will do what we did back then and move to a pump without a reservoir.  This second pump, which had been used on a truck lift-gate did work well and served us until we acquired the crankshaft pump and bracket.

At the time when we were searching for an electric pump, there were few options within our budget.  A check of ebay today shows many pumps available.  Included in the list at the time of this posting was a 12 volt version of the Monarch HY-LO pump.

We have seen pictures of Newgren lifts using 6 volt versions of this pump.  They were mounted between the driver’s seat.  Unfortunately, 6 volt pumps are hard to find and if you want to keep the stock electrical system, this may not be an alternative.
What would we do?

Our initial goal had been to have a working lift.  But then as we learned more about the Newgren history and built a second jeep, the goal changed to having a lift that was as original as possible.  Our lift is more show than go.  So what would we do if we were just looking for a working lift, as Quentin is doing?
Since he is missing so many components, we would find a cylinder and use a HY-LO belt-driven pump.  That pump would provide three of the four missing components.  It has been used by many Newgren owners and can still be found in good shape.  This is the arrangement that John Ittel run’s on one of his 3Bs  and says it works well.  John has a number of Newgren lifts among his collection of farm jeeps and we would take this as a good recommendation.
We would carry the frame to a good hydraulic shop and have them find an appropriate cylinder.  One of the joys of the Newgren design is that the frame stripped of its components is easy to haul around.
If the jeep will have a 12 volt system, then an electric pump with reservoir and a control valve between the seats would be a good working option.  We like the option of the pump being active only when needed.
Given our experience we would not recommend duplicating the Newgren reservoir and control valve.  The reservoir is difficult to fill and there is no way to determine the fluid level.  It should be possible to  modify the design to overcome these issues.  If so, coupled with a modern control valve it could allow between the seats operation.
If you want a crank driven pump, you can purchase the IH/Case pump.  Newgren used two types of brackets.  The first was a simple strap metal design that could easily duplicated.  You would need to use the Monroe style coupler to mate the pump to the crankshaft.

The “special” crankshaft and pump adapter used on the early Newgren offer no special advantages.  It may difficult to find the Monroe style, but it is much improved design and uses the standard Willys pulley.

We would again look at a simpler pump solution, either electric or belt-driven.  Whatever your pump choice, make sure that there is a pressure relief valve in the system.  A lack of one, coupled with are lack of knowledge cost us two pumps.
Hope this helps
As we stated at the beginning, this post is not a how-to, but a way to share some of our lessons-learned and idea of what we may have done based on hindsight.  We welcome comments and corrections. 

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A Home Town Jeep Heater

The Small Town Jeep Club held its 2017 Aaron Thompson Memorial Jeep Show in a park just east of our home town of Columbus, Indiana.  The event featured a couple of hundred jeeps of all ages and we took the Farm Jeep to add to the fun.  We did have fun, but the real excitement began when we were parked next to a beautiful red 1947 CJ2a.

The jeep in its original red paint had been found in a Columbus garage.  The lucky owner got the jeep, which had been sitting for a couple of decades, running with minimal effort.  Air in the tires, fresh fuel and a new battery were all that was required to get it rolling.  While the owner doesn’t have a lot of history, the 2a does provide some clues.  Barely visible on the lower windshield frame are the remains of a sign that ended with GARAGE.

As we walked around the well preserved jeep we spotted an unusual heater located on the passenger side. The knob read “ARVIN” and the owner confirmed that the heater works well.

Columbus was home to the company that became Arvin Industries from 1919 until the year 2000 .  The complete story is at Preserving Arvin.  It is more personal at Farm Jeep, since Barry’s father worked at Arvin.  Barry also worked at Arvin in the summers when attending Purdue University.  So this was a fun discovery.

While we didn’t examine the heater we are guessing it is the Universal model pictured in a 1941 catalog.  While Arvin had models for specific vehicles, the jeep wasn’t around then.

According to the Preserving Arvin site, the company did produce a number of parts for jeeps and other military vehicles during WWII.  Maybe we can find other Arvin products are a part of jeep history.

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Farm Jeep at the Fair

We love going to the country fair.  We can drive there with the plow hanging off the back.  We’ve won our share of ribbons, but the real reason we go is to meet and talk with the many people who have never seen a farm jeep.  Bartholomew County is home to a number of major players in the transportation industry, including Cummins Engine Company.

The fair is all about food for many people and there are large lunch-time crowds.  We time our visits around lunch and not just for the pork chop sandwich served up by local producers, but so we can talk to the many engineers and techs from the area.  They wander through the antique equipment tent that is on the route from the parking lot to the food stands.  A very large percentage stop at the Farm Jeep display

Most of the questions are technical in nature, rather than functional (how well does it pull that plow?) questions we are ask at tractor shows.  It is not unusual to see someone hand off his cup of home-made ice cream to a friend while he takes a look at the underside of the jeep.

The last day of the fair, we added a portable DVD player to show a short (7 minute) Willys promotional film.  As you might expect from a crowd on a time schedule, there were only a few people who watched the entire film.  But we expect it to be a bigger hit at the next show.  We continue to search for ways to provide information about the jeep’s role in farming history.
Speaking of farming history
Our favorite part of traveling to shows of all kinds is the opportunity to meet and talk with people. Over the years, we have heard many personal accounts that tell the Farm Jeep story in ways that ads and promotional films can’t.  We plan, in the coming months, to start recording some of those stories here.  

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A Brief History of Jeep Implement Lifts

Love Lift
The Spring Midwest Willys Reunion was held in our home town and we were asked to give a presentation on the history of the hydraulic lifts available for the early civilian jeeps.  The weather didn’t really cooperate, but we did have a nice group willing to stand in the rain to hear what we had to say.  Below is a summation of what we shared.
Introduction
A hydraulic farm implement lift or 3-point hitch as it is commonly referred to, was available almost from the beginning of CJ production, until the early 1960s. We are going to look at the development of the three earliest “Jeep Approved” lifts and touch briefly on the fourth and final Stratton Lift.  By “Jeep Approved” we mean those lifts that came from the factory, the dealer or manufacturer and appeared in Jeep ads.  There are many other lifts developed during this period, but we will not address them here.
We are drawing on the work of Clint Dixon, who has and is doing extensive research on both Newgren and Monroe lifts.  Clint owns a Monroe lift and uses Newgren plows, but doesn’t own a jeep.  Monroe produced a lift for the Dodge Power Wagon, which is what Clint drives.  For Clint to discover anything about his lifts and plows he had to go through the history of the farm jeep and we are the beneficiaries of all that work.
Our second special resource is Jerry Wittkop of Monroe Michigan who also doesn’t own a jeep.  Jerry is a retired engineer from Monroe Auto Equipment Company and is the curator of a display in the Monroe County Historical Society Museum.  When Jerry joined Monroe as a newly graduated engineer in the late 1940s, his first assignment was to work on the new Monroe jeep lift.  If you are a Monroe lift fan, you owe it to yourself to see Jerry’s display and you may even get a chance to visit with him.
In the beginning
To understand the history of the jeep lifts, we need to go back before the jeep was even on the drawing board.  J B Love was a young engineer from Michigan who in the mid-1930s saw a need for a new type of farm vehicle.  He had observed the fruit farmers of the area gathering their crops from the fields, transporting them to the barn and then loading them onto trucks for the trip to the market.  To solve this problem Love made a tractor out of a model ‘B’ Ford motor and truck transmission, with a truck rear-end, and called it a ‘TRUCTOR.’ The farmer could go from field to market traveling on the roads at about 40 miles an hour.  Mr. Love made these Tructors from 1933-1936. 
 
In 1939, Love saw a demo of the Ford-Ferguson system and immediately purchased a Ford dealership.  Love saw the 3-point hitch as the future of farming.  Based on customer demand, he developed his own line of 3 point implements.
The next we hear of Mr. Love, he is working as a consultant to Willys during the war as a designer of the post-war jeep.  Willys was looking at a combination truck and tractor design for the civilian jeep and since Love had built the “Tructor” we can only assume that is how the connection is made.
Image from the www.cj3a.info page

By 1945, Love had designed and patented the first “Jeep Approved” lift and began selling it through Willys dealerships.  The patent was obtain by the Newgren  Company in late 1946 or early 1947.  This company had been formed by George Newlin and Robert Green, both formerly with Willys.  (As a side note Jerry pronounces the name as “new-green” while most people say “new-grin.  Since Jerry was there we are considering the way we pronounce it too.)

While we do not know the number of original Love Lifts that were produced, we do know that Newgren quickly made modifications to the hitch, even as they sold the lifts as the Love Hydraulic Lift System.  Pictures from a 1947 Popular Science article clearly shows the familiar Newgren hitch design and the Love hydraulic pump arrangement.  Newgren then moved from the dash control and belt driven pump to the between the seats control and the crankshaft driven pump probably in 1947.

Meanwhile Monroe was looking at its own design for a lift.  The family owned company had provided a number of products toward the war effort, especially in aircraft.  They had used their expertise in hydraulic systems and expanded their knowledge of manufacturing components in the development of landing gear and bomb bay door systems for heavy bombers.  Like many companies they were looking at how to turn their war-time expertise into new products.  Examples of those products are on display at Jerry’s exhibit and range from golf balls (molding technologies) to the Jeep lift.
Monroe was a major supplier to Willys before the war and had a strong relationship with the company that was located just down the road.  The Monroe engineers took a fresh look at the lift design for the jeep and were testing the system with Ferguson equipment by the summer of 1947.  The patent for the system was awarded in 1948.
Testing showed that the Monroe system performed better with Ferguson and other 3-point implements when compared to the Newgren Lift and Willys seems to have agreed.  Monroe purchased Newgren in late 1947 with the idea of gaining a supplier who had both established manufacturing contacts for implements and an already established distribution network.
In 1948, Monroe sold Newgren to American Bantam Car Company and moved Newgren’s operation to Butler, PA.   To understand why this sell was made, we need to go back to the Ford-Ferguson story.  Ferguson started selling his own implements and at one time had a distributorship arrangement with Willys to sell plows through Jeep dealerships.  Meanwhile following the war, Henry Ford II decided Ford should be making implements for Ford tractors and started the Dearborn  Implement  Company.  Ferguson began to see Jeep as another competitor and was moving to stop the arrangement with Willys.
Newgren was to develop a complete line of implements to use with the Monroe Lift.  They did for a short period produce a wide range of 3-point implements.  But by 1950, Newgren as a company had all but disappeared.  Here the story becomes murky.  We do know that Newgren style plows show up in Jeep ads for the new CJ5 in the mid-1950s.
Monroe Lifts were available until we believe around 1956.  We are still researching this period, but we do know the fourth and final “Jeep Approved” lift appeared in the early 1960s.  The Stratton Equipment Company of Cleveland, OH filed for a patent in 1960 and was awarded a patent in 1963 for a new type of lift.  This lift combined the best of the Newgren and Monroe lifts.  The Startton Lift fits under the bed, a major advantage over the Monroe, while providing improved 3-point geometry.
We have little history of the Stratton Company other than they developed hydraulic systems used in the refuse hauling and material handlers from the 1940s.  There are pictures of their equipment if you do a Google search.   We have just received an ad from Clint showing a Stratton tailgate lift “Jeep Approved” for the Jeep FC truck.  So clearly a relationship existed between the companies.
The question remains as to who provided the lift design?  Did Jeep go to Stratton and ask for an under-bed design that restored a popular selling feature of the Love and Newgren lifts?  Or did Stratton go to Jeep with a design after they had established a relationship?
In the end.
After the CJ5 redesign in the early 1970s that saw the gas tank moved and gear ratios changed, the era of the farm jeep was pretty much over.  We have met a farmer who had custom gas tanks made for his new CJ5 so he could use the old PTO and Stratton lifts.

The amazing part of this story is that with the exception of the late-comer Stratton, the entire development cycle for the jeep lifts in three short years from 1945 to 1948.  Assuming Love was working on a lift as early as 1943 or 1944, it is still a very short time.

We continue are research with Clint. Jerry and others, looking for production numbers for all the lifts.  We would greatly appreciate any information you might have on this part of farming history.

A final note.
This brief history is just that.  It barely touches areas where we are still learning everyday.  While at the show, we were shown a cast aluminum pump bracket for the Newgren Lift.  We didn’t know of its existence.  We need to determine if our bracket is from an early version (it was purchased separately from the rest of the hitch) or a farm-made version. (Update:  The 1947 Newgren installation does show the strap bracket.  The cast bracket was a later upgrade.)
While researching the J B Love story, we found an ad right here on Farm Jeep that would indicate that Love was still selling his lift in 1950.  Who knew?  Apparently we did, but hadn’t realized what that meant.

We plan to keep learning and hopefully add to and even correct our reporting of the history of the lifts.  We always welcome new information.

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A Jeep By Any Other Name…. And A New Jeep Pup!

It is Spring on the farm and time to  put the farm jeep to work.  That’s Robbie in his farm boots and work  gloves taking a break from helping grandpa cut and load invasive trees.  Robbie was a great help and we are looking forward to many more visits.

While Robbie and grandpa were getting the jeep out of the barn and hooking up the trailer, Robbie asked what we should call the farm jeep.  Grandpa responded that we called the jeep Ole Yeller or just Yellow.  He asked Robbie if he thought it might need a different name and what would be a good one.  Robbie immediately responded “I think Rusty might work.”  A good observation, but we think we will stick with something more optimistic.

Spring time rituals

There are a number of antique tractor shows and jeep shows that take place in early May.  So every year about this time, we start scrambling to finish all the preparations we promised to do during the winter months.  This year is no different, but there are no (known) major lift problems and the 3a is running great.  We are working on our on road drive-ability and will take the jeep in for a professional alignment.  The gas gauge still isn’t working, but we will just make sure the tank is full before we venture too far.  There are a couple of events where we can drive to rather than trailer the jeep.

We did work on the the lift control valve leaking down.  We believe the valve needs to be refurbished and that will be a winter project.  Since the valve has no seals or O-rings, we will need to modify it or have a replica  made.  After years of searching, we have concluded that there is no valve that can replace it and maintain the original controls.

And meet Teddy

In August of 2005 we announced a new jeep dog had arrived at the farm.  Winnie loved his jeeps and claimed all of them.  Sadly, Winnie left us a year ago.  So earlier this Spring, we found a new jeep dog.  His name is Teddy and we think he will have the same fondness for our jeeps.

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Spring Midwest Willys Reunion Coming to Farm Jeep’s Home Town!

The Spring Midwest Willys Reunion will be held in Columbus, IN May 19th and 20th.  We are about a 15 minute drive from the location.  We will be there with our farm jeep and hope you join us.  Take a look at the site http://willysreunion.com/swr17.htm for more information.

In other news…

While we had a mild winter with little snow, all the planned work on the farm jeep hasn’t happened yet.  We did do some leak-down testing on the Newgren lift, but still have not pinpointed the cause. We suspect it is the control valve.

With days getting (slowly) warmer we are hoping to get out of the garage and on the road to do some high speed (for a farm jeep) driving.  We have taken a few short trips but are hoping to longer runs this summer.

More later.

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Can I build a farm jeep using my Wrangler?

That is a common question we receive here at Farm Jeep.  A similar question was just ask on the Early CJ5 forum and it reminded us that we had intended to respond here to the email sent by Denny last summer.  Here is the message –

“Hello gentlemen,
I have a 1994 jeep wrangler 4cyl.
Surprisingly tough little jeep, and super strong in 4lo.
Have wondered if there would be any way to adapt it to cultivate my modest agricultural land. Plow, rake, till, drag, mow, level, etc. Sort of a medium duty tractor substitute.

….”
and Barry’s response –
“Denny,

We have been asked similar questions many times.  This is really out of our knowledge zone.  But that doesn’t keep us from offering advice. That advice would be to buy a compact utility tractor if you plan on doing anything other than using pull-type implements.
The original design of the argri-jeeps and the early CJ version didn’t include a hydraulic lift.  They assumed that the small farmer, their target market, would use the implements they had on hand and had used with draft animals.  After WWII there were still many farms with 40 acres and two mules.  I won’t go into agricultural history, but just say that it is safe to say that any modern jeep can be used as a tractor when using these old pull and ground driven implements.  In fact I know that many people are using their jeeps this way today.
….”
– Some more info

Denny’s note got us thinking about how we might equip a modern jeep to do tractor work.  Basically, that would mean adding a lift and PTO.  After some searching, we came across this T-Point-Lift-Vehicle-SUV-UTV-3-Point-Hitch  that appeared to be a quick solution for the 3 point hitch,  We attempted to contact the company via email to see if any of their customers might be jeep owners, but never received a response. 
The search for a PTO solution was not successful,  We were assuming we would need to find a hydraulic rather than a mechanical PTO.  We assume a unit could be fabricated, but did not find a ready-made device.  
We did find a number of videos showing modern jeeps towing pull type implements, including this comparison  Farming with a 1953 Willys CJ3a and 2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.  

Summer tractor and jeep shows got in our way and we left doing more to answer the question for another day.

– That day 

After seeing the note on the the Early CJ forum (in this case a 1971 CJ5) we decided it was time to revisit the question.  Barry responded to the post saying that he would invest in a Ford 8N or similar tractor for the lift and PTO work the poster wanted to be able to do.  The jeep is still invaluable for hauling and towing.  An 8N can be found for between $2K-$3K, often with a mower (one of the posters tasks).  The above mentioned T-Point Lift was on sale for $1530, but would not provide for the PTO.  The 8N and similar model tractors were the chief competitors of the Farm Jeep and, like the jeep, are easy to work on and parts are readily available.

So did we answer the question?  Sort of.   You can use any jeep to pull implements and with something like the T-Point Lift you could use any modern 3 point implement not requiring a PTO.  But without the PTO we don’t believe it wouldn’t be a farm jeep in the traditional meaning..

– And then

There is, as Evan often says, a reason the Farm Jeep isn’t still around.  The truth is it isn’t a very good tractor. The turning radius makes it hard to use in small fields.  You can’t see the implement from the driver’s seat the way you can on a tractor.  For the farmer of limited means, the farm jeep was a good enough tractor and much better than draft animals.

For the non-field work, a jeep. old or new, is a great farm tool.  Most modern farmers have turned to UTVs for non-field work jobs.  But in a jeep can still do things no UTV  – or tractor – can do, such as driving into town for supplies.  And you can use it as your daily driver.  Get a Jeep!


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Signs, Finds and not a Newgren Mystery

We have noted here our desire to have an informative display whenever we are at a show or event.  While we like the free-standing style displays we see at classic car shows, our budget is pretty modest.  So we are searching for alternatives to the waterproof paper and magnets we have been using to display information on the jeep.

We ordered seven magnetic car signs printed with the same information we had used on the paper signs.  The goal is to answer the most commonly asked question of viewers if we aren’t around.

In addition to the signs, we had a series of old ads copied and laminated, to replace the three framed ads that we displayed when we were with the jeep.  Because the frames weren’t waterproof, we put them away when we weren’t around.  Finally we had a neat picture found on the Web blown up and laminated showing a jeep towing a baler and wagon.  The picture is large enough to be seen from a distance and along with the plow, gives the viewer a quick visual clue about how the jeep was used.

The display was well received and certainly an inexpensive move in the right direction.  Viewers enjoyed being able to pick up and read the ads.  The third day of the show was filled with periods of rain, then sun and the waterproofed display made our job easier.  We weren’t scrambling to get items out of the wet.

Finds – Our own and others

One of the joys of attending shows with the jeep is talking with people.  We always hear stories of childhood jeep memories and often find that we learn a little more jeep history.  On the second day of the show, three gentlemen approached the jeep and headed straight to the engine.  The three were recently retired from Stant, located in Connersville, IN.   Stant, we learned, is the company that makes all sorts of automotive “caps” – radiator, gas, oil filler – and has done so dating back to the beginnings of the automotive history.  The company made all the beautiful hood ornaments of the 1920s and 30s.

The guys were looking at all the caps on the jeep to see if they where Stant products.  Stant, they explained, made the L-134 oil filler cap/dipstick in a three step process, using a special rivet.  They declared that ours was an original.  The radiator cap was a Stant, but a modern version of the original.  The gas cap was not a Stant and indeed had a bad gasket.  We will need to work on that.

On the third day of the show, a young man stopped by and said he had a 1946 jeep in the barn that his father had purchased in the 70s.  He said it had a PTO and some sort of lift, but it didn’t look like ours.  After hearing a description of the lift, we pulled up a picture from the Web site of a Love lift.  He said “That’s it!”

It is clear that there is no interest in selling the jeep and we encouraged him to keep the lift on the jeep.  We believe he will do so and look forward to helping him with the lift.

The controls are where?

While looking over the ads mentioned above that we laminated, we noticed  a strange statement on a January 1947 ad titled “YES you can use Hydraulic-Lift Implements with  the UNIVERSAL ‘JEEP’.  The statement – “Hydraulic-lift implements raised and lowered by control on the dash.” – got our attention.

The ad, which can be seen here, shows the Newgren lift, that normally had the driver control between the seats.  The Monarch Hy-Lo Jeep pump did use a through-the-dash control.  We know that the Monarch pump was used with some Newgren lifts, but we had assumed that was at a later date.

So the question was is this an ad misprint or had Willys (or Newgren) started using Monarch pumps in place of the original Newgren unit. The answer appeared as we were reviewing the information we have on the Love lift.

As can be seen when comparing the ad above to this newspaper report (thanks to ewillys.com), the photo is the same.  Our assumption is that the lift in the ad was a Newgren was our error.  The earliest Love lift did use controls on the dash.

Update – Not our error

Just look at this undated announcement of the Newgren lift –

New Newgren Lift

Same picture again and yes that is a Newgren lift in every picture.  But still strange timing…

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Bantam plow update

In February of 2015, we posted the great news that two Bantam plows had been found. You can read the first post here and the update here.  David Tracy has just posted an article on his trip to the Omix-ADA headquarters titled “The World’s Biggest Aftermarket Jeep Parts Company Is My Paradise“.  Among the pictures of the company’s museum is a Bantam plow.  A quick note to Omix-ADA has confirmed this is one of plows found by Ted.

We hope to visit the Omix-ADA museum one day to see the plow.
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And the winner is……

Farm Jeep is at the county fair this week.  We were at the fair a couple of years ago, but without the plow attached.  We were given a blue ribbon for “best in class”.  As the only jeep in the tent, we were pretty sure we could repeat that feat.

This year has been different.  We were given a prime location at the front of the display, in the center of the tent.  The jeep had been a big draw at its last appearance and the organizers want it to be in a prominent spot.  We have the same display we use at tractor shows and visitors receive a brief bit of farm jeep history.

When we arrived at the tent for our daily visit, the director of the exhibit said that judging had taken place and we had been awarded a ribbon.  We walked around to the jeep and there where 3 ribbons hanging from the mirror!  The jeep was sporting Reserve Grand Champion ribbons.  Pretty cool…

The judge for the exhibit was from northern Indiana.  He had divided the exhibit in to two classes; general tractors and agricultural machinery.  The latter class included self propelled machines and tractors with attachments.  With the plow attached. the jeep was included in this class.  There were only 5 machines in this class, so our odds were good.  Still we enjoyed the recognition.

The winner is….

Since we were number 2, we were curious about the winner.  It is a beautifully restored 1938 Allis-Chamlers WC tractor pulling a 1941 grain harvester.  This exhibitor had also provided some history and that is, we are sure, one of the reasons it received the Grand Champion.  Congratulations!

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