Meanwhile, back at the farm
Update – While preparing the Golden Eagle to sale, Barry realized that he just couldn’t do it. So Matte found a new home and the Golden Eagle will become a new project.
Plows and More Plows – At Least in Printed Ads
Here at Farm Jeep, we have focused on flat fender jeeps. But an ad appeared on e-bay that clearly shows agricultural activities were still an important part of the new CJ5 model in 1955.
The jeep pictured in this ad may be a prototype (note the split windshield)(1), but here we are with Jeep promoting its agricultural implements. Of special interest to us are the graphics used for the two plows. They are identical to those used by Newgren in the late 1940s. It would appear that the original Newgren design was alive and well.
Still a mystery to me
Whenever we have a plow question, we contact our friend Clint Dixon. As always Clint had some interesting facts and history to help us learn more, if not solve our latest mystery.
Clint sent his own ad, staring the new CJ5. Here is what Clint had to tell us –
Here are Clint’s thoughts
Update – July 2021
Barry found himself hunting for information in Bowling Green, Ohio while doing research on a Jeep promotional movie. On a hunch he decided to again tackle the question of who owned Green Manufacturing.
Several online attempts to contact the current owners failed, but a phone call did yield a glimmer of hope. The person who answered the phone had been a long time employee, but didn’t have any knowledge of farm implements being produced. She did say that the company had been bought and sold at least a couple of times since it was Green Manufacturing.
Barry then contacted the Wood County Museum, sending them a copy of the “Greenline” plow ad showing the Bowling Green address. The next day he received a note saying that they had found information about who had purchased the original Green Manufacturing and provided contact information.
Here is what we have learned from Jeff Snook, former owner of Green Manufacturing and now owner/operator of Snook’s Dream Cars (www.snooksdreamcars.com):
Hi Barry,
My history with Green Mfg. did not include any Jeep connection, but here is what I remember hearing.
Bob Green, founder of Green Mfg. somehow was connected with Jeep in the 50s I believe. I recall hearing stories of him making implements. Don’t recall which, but it looks like plows based on your literature. I do recall he made post hole diggers for Jeeps as we continued that business into the late 1990s. But the ones we made were sold through farm implement dealers and not Jeep related. They were all 3-point hitch mounted.
We continued using the Greenline name on our posthole diggers and other implements (wagon gear & scraper blades) until I sold the business. Green Mfg also made hydraulic cylinders (turned out to be the largest part of our business) and I’m sure they evolved as part of the Jeep 3-point hitch connection.
Here is the Green Mfg. ownership history
1968 Robert Green sells to Wilde Manufacturing (Michigan company)
1969 William Snook hired by Wilde to run company
1974 William Snook buys company from Wilde & Jeff Snook comes on board
1989 Jeff Snook buys company from Bill Snook
1998 Jeff Snook sells company
Bob Green stayed on for 5 years as sales manager once he sold the company. He was an old car guy (like my Dad) and was involved in making overdrives for Franklin automobiles. As far as I know, he continued in the overdrive business until he passed away.
As shown, I sold the business in 1998 and all the records are gone, along with most of the folks that were around during that time. If I can find any old employees that might remember, I’ll send them your way.
At last!
Now we have some of our questions answered. We will continue to search for more information, but are happy to know that Robert Green continued to sell the fine Newgren line of implements.
- Ventilating windshields were an option on the early CJ5, not an indication of a prototype.
Historic Trip – Monroe Lift Museum Exhibit and Antique Mall Willys Corporate Report
On a recent road trip Barry made a couple of Farm Jeep related finds. The first was a planned visit to the Monroe County Historical Society Museum in Monroe, Michigan. Inside this excellent museum is an exhibit dedicated to the Monroe Auto Equipment Company (MAECO). This is the company that made the Monroe hydraulic lift for farm jeeps and still makes Monroe shocks.
The exhibit’s curator is retired MAECO engineer Jerry Wittkop. Jerry has assembled documents, photos, advertisement materials and samples of some of the many products made by this 100 year old company. Products ranging from the world famous shocks to golf balls. And of course, there is the Monroe hydraulic lift. In addition to a lift housing, the display includes a picture of the farm where jeeps equipped with the lift were tested and demonstrated. There is also a Monroe tractor seat on display.
Jerry’s long career and personal involvement with the family that owned the company (until its sell to Tenneco Inc. in 1977) has resulted in a display that is informative beyond the normal corporate history. We had always wondered how Monroe ended up making hydraulic lifts for the jeep. As Jerry explained (and demonstrates through the exhibit), Monroe made products that could make use of their expertise in hydraulic systems. Some of that expertise came from the company’s work with World War II tanks and aircraft hydraulic systems.
If you are in the Detroit area stop by and visit the museum and the MAECO exhibit.
Barry and his wife Paula like to take interstate trip breaks by stopping at antique malls. Barry likes to search for jeep related items. Most of the time that means old magazine ads. The same trip to the Monroe museum found them stopping at a mall in a small town off the interstate. Barry quickly found a booth with a nice selection of automotive ads. In among the ads was a Willys Overland financial report for the period ending March 31, 1946.
We have posted selected pages of the report here. The most interesting parts of the report are in the narrative, including the fact that no jeeps were produced during the final 3 months of 1945 because of strikes at suppliers. There is also the disclosure of the purchase of the Wilson Foundry & Machinery Co., the supplier of Willys engine blocks.
The report also discusses the company’s design philosophy and introduces the lineup of the CJ2a, wagon, pickup and the “delivery sedan.” An interesting look into the early days of the CJ.
Restoring the Newgren Plow – and Candle Magic
Once you have the wax in there just take two hammers and hold one under the side of the nut and then hit the opposite side. You don’t need to hit hard you just want to set up a vibration between the nut and the bolt to help the wax penetrate. For the same reason it will help to hit the bolt on the head while it’s warm. Do this several times and you won’t even need a cheater pipe on your breaker bar.
I don’t like to get nuts red hot with w torch when I’m trying to remove them as it seems that once they cool they shrink and are tighter than they were before. Good luck
I should add that an impact wrench set low enough so as not to twist off the bolt also sets up enough vibration to loosen the bolts once they have wax on them.”
Update – The completed project is shown in the photo at the top!
Shows Seals & Springs
After a long winter we needed to get the 3a ready for the first spring antique machinery show here in central Indiana. Evan and Barry spent a day make the final adjustments to insure everything was working as it should. Part of the testing involved getting the jeep with the plow attached on the car hauler trailer.
But first, Barry needed to re-install the PTO rear gearbox. He had taken some time during the winter to replace a leaking seal. The seal on the output had been leaking for the past year. Thanks to folks on the CJ3A Page (Installing and Rebuilding a Rear PTO Setup) and on the CJ2a forum, we found the correct seal and made the necessary repairs.
Now I get it
On a final note, this was the first show with the plow mounted on the jeep. It was a great success. With the plow on the back of the jeep, visitors immediately got the farm jeep concept. With just the lift, it took a lot more explanation. While it is more work to take plow, we think it is well worth the effort.
Newgren+TV=Solution
American Bantam Plow – More of the story
Our last post introduced our search for more information on Ted’s American Bantam plow. Over the past few weeks, we, along with a few Bantam, Newgren and Monroe experts have been searching for answers to our questions about where and when the plows were produced.
American Bantam Plow – an unknown chapter in Newgren Equipment history?
We received a note and pictures from Ted, who had purchased one of the two plows pictured. The plows are branded American Bantam, the same company that built the first WWII jeep prototype. The company located in Butler, PA is also known for its small cars. Some background information is provided here in this Newgren History.
Barry has been working with a few collectors and the American Austin Bantam Club to learn more about these plows. We are in agreement that the plows are re-branded Newgren models. But none of us had ever seen an American Bantam plow before. Both plows where found in northern VA.
We are still researching a couple of questions. We would like to know when Bantam dropped the Newgren name and began branding the implements as American Bantam. We believe it to be in the 1948 to 1954 time range. Second we would like to know how many and what type of implements were sold under the Bantam label.
We will post more information here, as we uncover it.
Finally, a working Newgren Lift
A look down the radiator to the new pump |